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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 16:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Donovan - you&#039;re right, the keywords tag isn&#039;t a ranking factor at all. It can be useful for competitive analysis though, at least for sites that are in desperate need of SEO.  Oftentimes website owners are led, by web designers, to believe that all they need to do is put their keywords in the meta tag. From my experience, it isn&#039;t uncommon to see webmasters, who are less versed in SEO, put the words they want to rank for in the meta keywords.

That being said, you need to take what a website owner believes their keywords are with a grain of salt since they probably didn&#039;t do any significant research. The value of these keywords needs to be judged based on volume and the intent of the keyword, but this is a way to find keywords that you may have missed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Donovan &#8211; you&#8217;re right, the keywords tag isn&#8217;t a ranking factor at all. It can be useful for competitive analysis though, at least for sites that are in desperate need of SEO.  Oftentimes website owners are led, by web designers, to believe that all they need to do is put their keywords in the meta tag. From my experience, it isn&#8217;t uncommon to see webmasters, who are less versed in SEO, put the words they want to rank for in the meta keywords.</p>
<p>That being said, you need to take what a website owner believes their keywords are with a grain of salt since they probably didn&#8217;t do any significant research. The value of these keywords needs to be judged based on volume and the intent of the keyword, but this is a way to find keywords that you may have missed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.canuckseo.com/index.php/2010/04/getting-the-seo-basics-right/comment-page-1/#comment-371</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 12:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhh....@Donovan, nice catch! While I&#039;d agree, and have commented for years now that META keywords do squat -- and posted here on that exact same topic....as you noted, there is a competitive intelligence advantage, that many SEO practitioners try to use by looking for same!

If the META keywords are there -- thent those are the keywords that the site is trying to optimize for....if they&#039;re not there, then a study will determine same. 

The thing is (and again I&#039;ve posted here and on many forums) many of us SEO types will use keywords that are listed but NOT being sought for...ie &quot;red-herring&quot; keywords, which may sound counter productive to some. But in fact in a few channels in which we have clients for some very highly competitive terms, this kind of tactic will work. 

Honestly, think abou it....if an SEO practitioner sees same, while he may know that such keywords dont work, he will automatically &quot;pigeonhole&quot; that site as being un-led by an SEO pro (and thus miss many more tactics that we&#039;re doing!) -- and in doing so, cross us off as a competitor...and that means that such a red-herring worked!

Good sense, in our books...and as Geoff notes too!

:-)

Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhh&#8230;.@Donovan, nice catch! While I&#8217;d agree, and have commented for years now that META keywords do squat &#8212; and posted here on that exact same topic&#8230;.as you noted, there is a competitive intelligence advantage, that many SEO practitioners try to use by looking for same!</p>
<p>If the META keywords are there &#8212; thent those are the keywords that the site is trying to optimize for&#8230;.if they&#8217;re not there, then a study will determine same. </p>
<p>The thing is (and again I&#8217;ve posted here and on many forums) many of us SEO types will use keywords that are listed but NOT being sought for&#8230;ie &#8220;red-herring&#8221; keywords, which may sound counter productive to some. But in fact in a few channels in which we have clients for some very highly competitive terms, this kind of tactic will work. </p>
<p>Honestly, think abou it&#8230;.if an SEO practitioner sees same, while he may know that such keywords dont work, he will automatically &#8220;pigeonhole&#8221; that site as being un-led by an SEO pro (and thus miss many more tactics that we&#8217;re doing!) &#8212; and in doing so, cross us off as a competitor&#8230;and that means that such a red-herring worked!</p>
<p>Good sense, in our books&#8230;and as Geoff notes too!</p>
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<p>Jim</p>
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		<title>By: Donovan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donovan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 04:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Since the Reign didn’t put any keywords in the meta tags, I am forced to guess at what they might want to show up for.&quot;

Are you serious ... if this is how determine what a site is targeting maybe you need to review seo basics ...

Can&#039;t believe G Man tweeted this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Since the Reign didn’t put any keywords in the meta tags, I am forced to guess at what they might want to show up for.&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you serious &#8230; if this is how determine what a site is targeting maybe you need to review seo basics &#8230;</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t believe G Man tweeted this.</p>
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